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so I guess curl is slop now

okay

https://codeberg.org/small-hack/open-slopware

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whoever made this list hating on every browser engine but WebKit is a fool

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Do not use Chrome. Do not use Firefox. Do not use VLC (fair take, but). Do not use mpv. Do not use Kodi. Do not use Jellyfin. Do not use ImageMagick. Do not use Systemd. Do not use Mesa. Do not use LVM2. Do not use the Linux kernel.

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@novenary tbh we should all be fulfilling our computing needs on GameCubes and Dreamcasts anyway spinnyCatTrans spinnyCatTrans spinnyCatTrans spinnyCatTrans spinnyCatTrans spinnyCatTrans

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@xerz wanna join my project to make a cool OS for those two (and g3/g4 macs)
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Do not use Haskell

Do not use bun or deno (but maybe use nodejs)

Do not use python

Do not use vim (though evi exists and vim doesn't really need shiny new features as that's neovim's thing... don't use neovim too)

Do not use JJ despite the fact that some of devs only locally maybe used it for unrelated test task once
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I think it's time to confront the fact that it's hard to tell apart slop from human imperfection and that both are intertwined. The incentives just make this a losing game.

My proposal is to either compromise, or create new software that vetoes contributors and remains small-scale and deeply personal.

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@xerz yea i found out about it around the time the original slopware list was taken down πŸ™ƒ

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@xerz isn’t it ironic that he was the one annoyed by slop bug reports?

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@xarvos that's the thing tho, even he who has all of the reasons to be pissed still allows them anyway

it's just even more effort to ban it

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@xerz fwiw it is not about banning, it’s an informative list

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@xarvos well, it is an informative list about projects not banning LLMs, isn't it

or at the very least, projects providing them with any support/help

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@xerz and how it is used. you can look at one and gauge the BS level and decide if you would tolerate it

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@xarvos fair enough, although it heavily reads as borderline all or nothing

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@xerz no just like use gardening shears instead

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@twinkle the only correct take

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