Not that it matters, but a lot of dissociative disorders described by those with BPD just sound to me like typical BPD identity disturbance. It makes me wonder if beings don’t realize that BPD is at its core an identity disorder, not just something that makes them really upset or clingy. Fear of abandonment, FPs, splits, are all symptoms of having an unstable identity.

@Aco its literally one of the hallmark symptoms

@Aco ive met some people who say theyre "bpd systems" and yea i think plurality is a totally valid lens through which to see your borderline personality states

@Aco i say that but also i meet the diagnostic criteria for both bpd and did so im having a very amazing time over here 💀

@november Indeed. Some beings get upset when you say you don’t have DID, like you’re saying you’re faking or something. But it shouldn’t really matter the reason you have your alters. The labels just help us understand them better so we can navigate them.

@Aco we’re being subposted dang
it is still a possibility in some way however we have made a lot of research into this topic alongside several other systems and i think the way we describe ourselves fit right. although i don’t deny that our other identity disorders like bpd most likely has some sort of effect on this whole deal

@maplepie Another example of “you triggered it but it’s not specifically about you.”

@Aco our presence invites conversations i guess lol

@maplepie You’re very open, in a way that facilitates those conversations. I appreciate it!

@Aco @november sysmeds can kill themselves as far as im concerned. gatekeeping identities like that is so fucked up.

@11 @november Identities are social constructs, so you can organize them in your head however suits you. Personally I use them to try and understand their psychology so I know better how to navigate working with and helping them. Beings with autism and adhd both have executive dysfunction, but the nature of it and the accommodations they are likely to need often differ dramatically and can even be counterproductive.

Of course, I prioritize what I learn about them over a broad label. Just because someone fits into a category doesn’t mean they’re a perfect average of it. So you have to get to know the individual. But having a good starting point to work from is extremely helpful.

@maplepie @Aco fistbumps u twin heyy heyy

@Aco @november ive had a lot of instances where people say “okay but i have bpd and i dont act like that” like no these disorders are clusters of related symptoms not one universal identical experience, people’s symptoms will affect them in different ways and to different degrees, there just happen to be enough commonalities to fit under the bpd label. its the same way with autism, and incidentally exactly why they call it “autism spectrum disorder”. not everyone’s symptoms present the same way or to the same degree as others’.

@11 @november Indeed. I’m actually surprised you agreed with my post as a whole. I honestly expected you to take offense at me saying that I don’t necessarily organize others’ identities in my own head as the ones they claim for themselves.

@Aco @11 their identity can be valid even if it doesnt line up quite right with the definition in the fucking eugenics handbook known as the dsm-5. if you have similarish symptoms and experiences that you can relate to others in the bpd community then you can call yourself bpd. its literally just a label. we just use labels to describe our experiences. if you feel like a different label would fit somebuggy better thats perfectly fine as long as you're not telling them how they should identify.

@Aco @11 diagnoses are just a label that you pay a psychiatrist to give you that you could fucking give yourself. the only difference is that they dont let you get accommodations like medication if you dont get a neurotypical person with a fancy degree to tell you what you are for you

@november @11 As someone educated in psychology I likely take those authorities more seriously than you do. The question of whether they should be allowed to have authority over your own treatment aside, I do think that treating based on empirical evidence which relied on experiments specifically on those who fit into a particular qualification means we should ideally apply it to the group the studies are talking about, regardless of what label we put on it.

@Aco @november yea but theres a difference between trusting that an expert who studied this in depth knows what theyre talking about and gatekeeping a community based on arbitrary metrics and ostracising people who “pretend” to have a condition

@11 @november True, so I suppose we generally agree.

@Aco @november yea . respecting people’s identities and respecting the science aren’t contradictory in the slightest